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28th Jun 2018, 6:28 AM in Chapter 29: Beyond Super Saiyan!!
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J Melo 28th Jun 2018, 8:17 AM edit delete reply
WOW!!! I love this chapter. Go Goku and Yamcha, defeat this guy!!! Thanks for the great job again RMK!
Salagir 28th Jun 2018, 10:56 AM edit delete reply
Great fight!
But Gokû can't win... this is about Yamcha.
Mortune 28th Jun 2018, 3:00 PM edit delete reply
Aren't you the artist for Multiverse?
Rod of stone 29th Jun 2018, 9:34 AM edit delete reply
Hey, Mr. Salagir? Author and main artist of DBZ: Multiverse?

It is quite an honour of DBZ:E fans to see you guys being fan of this fan-story as well.

You both rock and your hard work is evident in both your respectable works.

As a side note, I wish there will be a special detailing how the Universe 9 got their respective positions, Krillng master of Turtle School, Tien master of Crane scholl and Yamcha an android.

Keep being awesome.
RMT 28th Jun 2018, 1:46 PM edit delete reply
Thanks for continuing!
Guest 28th Jun 2018, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
I want to see Goku's Dragon Fist clash with whatever this Blue Dragon thing is.
Geekdom-Sama 28th Jun 2018, 2:57 PM edit delete reply
Not bad dude this is pretty awesome can't wait to see what's next
Champa 28th Jun 2018, 3:00 PM edit delete reply
So you managed to get Whis and Vados to support you on your patreon? I guess will too, if it means getting these to come quicker. What? Don't look at me like that, I told you I hate waiting!
Stinger 29th Jun 2018, 6:59 AM edit delete reply
Very nice chapter.
Someone from Earth 29th Jun 2018, 9:37 AM edit delete reply
Is that blue dragon the base of Goku's Dragon Fist(But he used it only as a Ssj3 and 4) ? Hmmm, intrensting chapter so far RMK , thank you and all your hard work!!! I would expect Goku to last more as a Ssj2 in this fight but i guess it's still early to say. I wonder how Yamcha will help him win.
SaGe 29th Jun 2018, 11:54 AM edit delete reply

Why did this chapter END!??!!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


LOVED this chapter.
King Kaio 29th Jun 2018, 2:35 PM edit delete reply
No no no no! Goku has to move! That idiot!
Gokitalo 30th Jun 2018, 10:46 AM edit delete reply
Yes!!! Somehow I knew there'd be a chapter up, so I checked and here we have it! Very clever fight, and I like the revelation of the alternate set of styles! Always a pleasure to read Elsewhere!
The gentle duck 1st Jul 2018, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
I believe I have never been so happy for something to be out, yet so desperate for more. Keep up the fantastic work! Now, into the theories!! Here's mine: Goku is going to lose this fight, but Heiwa is going to be very impressed by him(I mean, he kinda is already) so he will leave the afterworld with Cold by his side. Cold will either receive a powerup or the ability to transform. Yamcha, after seeing the godly techniques Heiwa used, will try to use them as well, but either he will give up stating that the Wolf path is enough to triumph(looking really bad ass) or his body won't be able to use them properly. That's all I got, now to go into stasis until the next chapter comes out, let's see if I was right
Ivan 2nd Jul 2018, 3:17 PM edit delete reply
read all the chapters in two nights. i had to work so i let a second day to come to finish all the chapters.
i am deeply thanking you for giving me courage to gather all my data about the story i develop for 5 years or so. i will start drawing and let my imagination take control of the project, to be guided by your devotion to your project as a proof i can do it.
managing my depression through this project may lead to a genuine story that i want to share later and to leave it to my kids that will come.
RMK, i am deeply thanking you! be at peace
Foolish 5th Jul 2018, 11:33 AM edit delete reply
Does the Blue Dragon have White Eyes?
Rod of stone 6th Jul 2018, 11:57 PM edit delete reply
Guys, great news!

We, finally, have confirmation, from the horse's mouth no less, that there is literally ZERO filler in the original DB and DBZ!

As stated by Akira Toriyama himself: "Dragonball is both the anime and the manga."

Links to it:

So, this basically confirms what everyone else has been saying since the start, that Toriyama is/was a man with the most big schedule out of all mangakas in his time (he may still be) and he literally was doing this with minimal help, so he had absolutely no time to create and help build the anime as well, especially an anime that in its time had the biggest production values of all animes.

He just did not have the time to dedicate to both the anime and the manga but he had written snips and made designs were the anime team would be use as a basis for spicing up the anime.

So, all in all, this confirms that the protagonist of this story, Yamcha, DID beat Recoome of the Ginyu force and he had a spar with Krillin that ended in a somewhat draw, he and Tien did manage to stave off a Cell Jr. for a small while and he did manage to beat Olympu and a Gorilla in the Afterlife, meaning Yamcha is way stronger his detractors give me credit for.

And now we have confirmation of it.
Gokitalo 9th Aug 2018, 6:00 AM edit delete reply
Well, I wouldn't really go that far... doesn't the anime has at least two different versions of Dende learning that Piccolo absorbed Nail, for example? :-P Plus Toriyama has mentioned in interviews that he did get a little frustrated sometimes when Goku was portrayed as, in his mind, overly heroic in the anime.

Basically, I think Toriyama's otherwise approval of the anime overall lets fans pick and choose what "extra" stuff in there happened (especially since, as the Kanzenshuu link points out, a lot of the ideas for the filler were his!). So until Toriyama flat-out overwrites something that was in the anime with a new idea (or states it never happened), you can totally add it to your head-canon, or, as RMK has, incorporate it into a fan comic. Probably won't win you too many arguments with the purists, though :-P
Rod of stone 28th Aug 2018, 10:20 AM edit delete reply

First, my apologies for my late reply, had not checked this page for a while now, and also a second apology for my English, for they are not my native language.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but was not Toriyama talking about the depiction of Goku by the Funimation studio that did the translation (or, rather, the adaptation) of DBZ at the time? I am not versed in the Japanese subtitles and episodes enough to make a conclusive judgement.

One has to understand, that Toriyama's schedule was the most hectic schedule a manga writer had at this point in time, probably still is, not sure, he was doing all of this in the most limited time availed to a person, so, he let the TOEI animation team handle the details that he wanted to put in the manga, but he could not due to time constraints.

This is my take on it, that Toriyama wished to do more with the characters that were not important to the plot, however, he could not afford the time to do so, so he let the anime team fill in some gaps.

And I say most of DBZ is better for this.

Some of the most iconic moments of the anime are filler.

One of my most beloved scenes in the anime is in the original DB, in the King Piccolo arc, where Tien meets the unamed man he crippled for life in his search for Dragon Balls.

I can expand more why I love the 22nd World Martial Arts Tourmanet and the King Piccolo arc that followed them and I consider them the best arc of the entire series of DB, but for now, I must say that most of the filler made DB(Z) better, not worse off, imho.
Gokitalo 15th Apr 2019, 6:40 AM edit delete reply
Hi Rod of Stone, I'm sorry, I hadn't seen your reply before. Toriyama was actually talking about the show with its original Japanese dub. It's true that Funimation's English dub made Goku even more heroic, but I don't think Toriyama's actually seen it. I'm not sure how fluent in English he is, and the dub would've been difficult for him to watch in Japan when it was on television, as it aired in a pre-YouTube world.

Toriyama did have a little involvement with the television version of Dragon Ball, but you're right, he didn't really have much time to play a big role in its production, as he was already so busy with the manga. I'm not sure if he had the anime add extra scenes because he didn't have time to include them in the manga, but certain ideas on the show were definitely his, such as the Tsufruians' history and Piccolo splitting in two while training for the arrival of the Saiyans. He also designed a couple of filler characters, including Gregory, Paikuhan/Pikkon and the Dai Kaiō/Grand Kai.

I agree with you, though, that filler does get a worse reputation than it deserves. I love, for example, how the show had Piccolo, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Krillin help Gohan against Perfect Cell before Vegeta cut in-- a scene RMK included in Elsewhere! I am fond of the Other World Tournament also, and the brilliant Bardock TV special. I also like episode where Vegeta doesn't want to fuse with Goku upon learning that Goku had hidden the existence of Super Saiyan 3 for him. I even like the Goku/Piccolo driving episode!
ThatYamchaFan 8th Jul 2018, 6:19 PM edit delete reply
I religiously checked every single week to see if Elsewhere had posted a new chapter for so long, until finally this came out. I was NOT disappointed in the SLIGHTEST. Keep doing what you're doing and keep improving, RMK! :D :D :D
worthless 22nd Jul 2018, 8:35 AM edit delete reply
noooooooooo im at the end nooooooo great work so far btw
D 22nd Jul 2018, 10:25 PM edit delete reply
Big Yamcha fan here thanks for doing this comic, its awesome, couple parts I got lil confused at but its terrific overall, props to giving Yamcha the love and respect he deserves. Keep it up will be checking in to see when more chapters will be available!
Sakku 27th Jul 2018, 10:06 AM edit delete reply
Wow, just discovered your comic here and I read it all in one sitting ! That was super epic and I love the care you gave to best boi Yamcha !
I'm pleased to see that humanity can still prevail, even in the world of Dragon ball !
Panos 17th Aug 2018, 2:40 PM edit delete reply
First of all I am not a native English speaker so please excuse any mistakes I may do.
I deeply understand that what you do is a hobby and not a job. I would still recommend that you put an advertisement or something in this site so you would make profit.
It is not important but your job should be rewarded. It is worth it. ;)

Also a Guess on the release date of the new chapter would be appriciated to say the least.
As always keep up with the good work! LOVED THAT CHAPTER!
RMK 28th Aug 2018, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
I do appreciate your concern for me, really, I do. Having ads is a good idea, but I suppose that would also require me to post this comic on my own domain. As I do not own Comic Fury, I have no control over the ads or the ad revenue. It's just a free comic hosting site.

I am trying to have the new chapter done, but I am also in the middle of moving my family to a new city. I will post when I can. Sorry I can't give more than that.
Rod of stone 29th Aug 2018, 10:39 AM edit delete reply
As someone who follows and reads "Order of the Stick" from 04' and onwards, do not be afraid, Mr. RMK, patience is not only a virtue, but a God-send value in my book, I will be gladly wait for your true, unlimited, uncompromized vision of our favourite desert bandit to come to fruition, regardless how much time will take.

I wish you and your family my best wishes in the start of your new life.
Qwyatt Srorm 1st Sep 2018, 4:34 PM edit delete reply
Your work is truly amazing.
Bulma 6th Sep 2018, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
I just have one question, is Yamcha gonna end up wit Bead or the other blue-haired chick.
Erik corbin 7th Sep 2018, 3:17 PM edit delete reply
This is a fantastic series, i'm glad my favorite character's got a good fan manga to his name.
Webcomic Finder 10th Sep 2018, 2:11 PM edit delete reply
Just found your webcomic and I must say that so much potential is in this concept. It's a shame the side characters and concepts of DB and DBZ have being shelved for so many years... But at least we can have an interesting alternative.

Keep up the good work :)
Monkey saiyen 12th Sep 2018, 9:23 PM edit delete reply
3 and a half hours I have been highly entertained I could not stop reading. Your work vision and imagination for this comic is outstanding.I think you are amazing and wish you the best on all of your future endeavors
TheNuReality 18th Sep 2018, 10:21 AM edit delete reply
Welp, I've read 500 pages in a day, I've always wanted to see the humans in Dragon Ball get the proper treatment they deserve. I hope to read more in the future! Fantastic Stuff!
Guest 28th Sep 2018, 10:37 AM edit delete reply
Are you alive?
Liam Richardson 28th Sep 2018, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
You alive bro? Hope your alright
Someone From Earth 1st Oct 2018, 5:40 AM edit delete reply
He is alive, but he is very busy, i hope the next chapter will be ready by the end of 2018.
Futeki 16th Oct 2018, 12:03 PM edit delete reply
I always wanted to see more of the humans instead of all the focus on Goku and such. I think they are more interesting and could have played a bigger role in the story.

I had the pleasure of getting a sneak peak at the next chapter by looking over RMK's shoulder while working on it. >:) and also being able to have a lot of my own dbz questions answered that I missed or never understood. Needless to say it looks amazing and I cant wait to see it completed!
Someone From Earth 18th Oct 2018, 4:14 AM edit delete reply
I agree with you, it's all about Goku in the anime since the beggining of DBZ, it's even worst in Super.
Brandon 19th Oct 2018, 9:52 AM edit delete reply
I really love this manga
Dennis 21st Oct 2018, 7:52 PM edit delete reply
This story is so cool. I am now motivated to keep training as a comic book maker and a martial artist.
Chase 23rd Oct 2018, 4:06 PM edit delete reply
Amazing story. Best power scaling of any fan manga and tons of plot tie-ins to original story. Love all the expansion upon the animal schools, and I can't wait to see where the Yamcha-Tien rivalry goes once Tien gets a few zenkais.
Guest 24th Oct 2018, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
I feel like he should keep going with this because it's do good
EDP 3rd Nov 2018, 7:05 AM edit delete reply
Took me a while to catch up. And now, I wonder: is Heiwa about to give Goku ideas?
Grabnatz 9th Nov 2018, 11:04 AM edit delete reply
Next chapter Please 😁
Cell Dorado 11th Nov 2018, 6:42 PM edit delete reply
I think Goku will end up losing this fight. Even a Super Saiyan 2 isn't strong enough to handle an opponent with such advanced martial arts as Heiwa (It could also be why Yamcha didn't want Piccolo to call Gohan and Vegeta).
All of the Sacred School Martial Arts are mortal derived imitations in comparison to their original forms.

But, Goku will learn a lot from the battle with Heiwa. I think this is why Goku pushed to find a level higher level of power(Super Saiyan 3) capable of defeating someone like Heiwa or Majin Buu. Goku's "Dragon Fist" technique may also be inspired from Heiwa's "Divine Dragon" attack.

I think Heiwa will need to be defeated by not just means of strength alone. He possesses both power AND technique, something that only Cell has really seen to have, and Heiwa is even stronger than him.

I think all four of the Sacred Schools will have to team up to defeat him. The strength of the wolf is in the pack, like Master Maccha said.

The Wolf(Yamcha, Yunomi, Barracks, and Pigero)
The Turtle(Krillin, Yamcha again)
The Crane(Tien, Chiaotzu, Barracks again)
The Serpent(Kyonshi, Solace)

All will come together to fight this rogue Supreme Kai.
DensetsunoNegro 25th Nov 2018, 1:36 PM edit delete reply
I've got to say, this manga has kept me on the edge of my seat! As a Yamcha fan and as a fan of excellent storytelling in general, I have to say I am very pleased with what you're doing! Keep up the great work!!! I look forward to seeing how this amazing journey continues!
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