Comic 398 - Page 17

29th May 2017, 2:12 PM in Chapter 25: At the Lake of Blood
Page 17
Average Rating: 5 (4 votes)
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Takeno 29th May 2017, 3:41 PM edit delete reply
I read it all it's so amazing almost got got an eyegasm at the last panel. ?

But now I have to wait huuuuuuuh I want to see at least Yamcha wreck Gero to oblivion ! ?
Someone from Earth 29th May 2017, 4:24 PM edit delete reply
Awesome!!! can't wait to see next chapter... Dr.Gero-Yamcha "Rematch" finally !!! I Belive Yamcha really deserved this rematch.
Guest 29th May 2017, 6:23 PM edit delete reply
Yamcha's got this and thank you for the update. I've been on edge since January waiting for this. Hoping that these updates are a little less time consuming from now on though.
DBOYMAN 29th May 2017, 6:30 PM edit delete reply
After the crappy way DragonBall Super writers is treating Yamcha, this fan manga is finally giving him an opportunity to shine. And screw Tean Four star and there stupid dead Yamcha meme!!!
Gem_Productions 29th May 2017, 7:31 PM edit delete reply
AMAZING!! Keep up the good work :D I love this, and have reread this at least 5 times! (Not joking here) I can't wait to see more, however keep at your own pace, I don't care if I have to wait a couple of months, I'm just glad you have continued this awesome series!
BTW: I love it how you release in chapters, one page every couple days from DBM is kinda annoying.
Ivan 31st May 2017, 1:12 AM edit delete reply
Wow, Yamcha looks legit explosively angry, if he was a Saiyan and he never went SSJ, he would have gone SSJ2 just judging from the sheer gaping mouth and triangular blank eyes. This is very emotional.
Marvin 31st May 2017, 2:03 PM edit delete reply
Another great chapter filled with action, suspense, friendship, humor and even more action :D

That bit about Recoome demanding a rematch from "Scarface" and Goku's reaction towards this always cracks me up xD

Also, Dr. Gero trying to undermine Yamcha's self-confidence Emperor-Palpetine-style was a sly move on your part as well :)
abowden 2nd Jun 2017, 9:33 AM edit delete reply
This page really sticks in your head, that is a great picture of enraged Yamcha in the last panel, kind of makes me wonder just what he will do to Dr Gero now. If he's not careful, he'll rip off one of his arms...
GokuDBZ 3rd Jun 2017, 3:03 PM edit delete reply
He already ripped both of his hands off xD
RMK 4th Jun 2017, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
Nah, I just couldn't draw Gero in the background without it looking too cluttered. Yamcha's blocking most of him anyway.
Guest 4th Jun 2017, 11:51 PM edit delete reply
Yamcha is going to destroy Gero with a X-20 KAIOKEN!

Am I the only one kind of hoping to see a defeated Gero reflect on his failures and motives for the things that he has done after Yamcha beats him? Even if just a quick line of dialogue or something. It could be another piece of plot for RMK to fill while he's at it. If not, oh well.
Leon Venxus 6th Jun 2017, 10:59 AM edit delete reply
Awesome....just purely awesome
Supreme Kaioshin 9th Jun 2017, 3:22 PM edit delete reply
Doesn't that mean he's 40 x his base?
I mean, Kaioken already doubles your power. Any other amplification after that is the multiplier times 2... EX: base(2xM).
DSSword 11th Jun 2017, 4:43 AM edit delete reply
Kaioken and kaioken x2 have always been a quirk with that technique. Kaioken x2 is a confirmed doubling of power...just like kaioken. some people like to write it off as Kaioken really being just a 50% boost me which i think is reasonable enough.
Detective Q 11th Jun 2017, 5:01 PM edit delete reply
Nah man... It's like Supreme said, Kaioken doubles your power already. Kaioken x 20 should be 40 times your base.
Anti 10th Jul 2017, 2:44 PM edit delete reply
Nah, I read the manga again in different languages just to get that. It's a little mistake, both kaiokhen do the same thing. King Kai states the danger of doubling the power with Kaiohken x2 while Goku states that regular kaiohken doubled his base. Even the narrator contradicts itself. Moreover x3, x4 and x10 have been confirmed multiple times as to be a multiplier of the base by that number.

Also as far as Elsewhere goes kkx40 can't be an 80x boost or Yamcha would be stronger than Goku ssj which is a 50x boost. The previous chapters made all that very clear.
Detective Q 16th Jul 2017, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
He meant not to do more than times kaioken x2. Since the power up is already a x2 multiplier. Timesing the normal kaioken which is 2 times base, by 2 will be 4 times base. Higher than that would've been more than what his body could maintain of even the seconds he used it in. The inconsistency is in the translations.
ImperialWrath 28th Dec 2017, 11:15 AM edit delete reply
That still makes no sense though, for a normal Kaioken to automatically double a user's power, while x2 multiplies the user's base x4. As Anti pointed out, going by the math, this would mean that at Kaioken x40 (which would be 80x user's base), Yamcha would be stronger than SSJ Goku since the SSJ form only increases the user's base x50.

I agree with DSSword that a Kaioken with no multiplier should be the user's + half of that base (i.e. Goku using Kaioken during the fight with Vegeta would be 8000+4000 = 12000)
Detective Q 22nd Nov 2018, 1:06 PM edit delete reply
That's where the famous Toriyama inconsistencies come in too. the databook states clearly stated "...The only change produced by the basic Kaioken to be quantified in the series is that it doubles the user's overall power level... There is the inconsistency that Kaioken X2 appears to have the same effect."
truthfully it should be
KK = X2
KKX3 = X3
KKX4 = X4
etc... But translations and the matter of Toriyama never clarifying this detail pushes the community into a downward spiral.
Just a fan 10th Jun 2017, 2:56 AM edit delete reply
Poor King Cold he only appears in one panel...

Also, isn't Kaioken 20x too much for Dr. Gero?
RMK 10th Jun 2017, 7:27 AM edit delete reply
Cold will have some more screen time. I actually have specific plans for him.
SaGe 10th Jun 2017, 2:27 PM edit delete reply
Would be nice to see King Cold do something along the lines of how they developed King Cold in the Dragonball Multiverse. Gave him a new transformation, abilities... just real fresh content. I'm hoping you have a unique take on a VERY underdeveloped character.
Great Comic (DBE), I literally check back frequently to see the comments and how you're coming along with posting the next chapter(s).
RMK 10th Jun 2017, 4:25 PM edit delete reply
I think DBM did a great job with Cold. So great in fact, that anything I could do with his character in a traditional DBZ sense would appear to be copying them. So my plans for him necessarily will be going in a largely different direction than what most fans have wanted to see, but one that stays faithful to classic Dragonball themes.
DSSword 11th Jun 2017, 4:48 AM edit delete reply
Seeing Yamcha go right to x20 with such a furious expression is kind of fantastic. The tittle of the next issue has me really curious, I'm kind of half expecting another look at the characters frustrations over his repeated defeats on top of a just deserved stomp on gero. All in all a fantastic issue and I predictably cant wait for more =p
Kaioken 12th Jun 2017, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
I keep seeing DBM. What is it? If it's another webcomic can someone please drop the link? Also, I'm still lovin' it! Keep up the great work man!
Guest 12th Jun 2017, 6:01 PM edit delete reply
It's called Dragon Ball Multiverse.
Shiki 16th Jun 2017, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
Read it all in one night. Its way past 4 AM now, i still cant blink, much less sleep. Guess i will re-read and imagine it all animated. they need a rating 6 for this. Way to Good. Cant wait for more !!!!!
SaGe 18th Jun 2017, 1:52 PM edit delete reply
Well the creator of DB(E) has done what many wanted him to do. He took one of the many characters that have since been turned irrelevant and made them have a very interesting back story. Probably the best SO FAR was his fight vs Non-SS Goku. Loved every moment of it. The call back to the Piccolo's hell-zone grenade made me smile a mile wide.. not to mention he added his own flavor to the attack.
Salagir 19th Jun 2017, 10:10 AM edit delete reply
Great to see another chapter!!

> I keep seeing DBM. What is it?
Oh, it's great :)

> So my plans for [Cold]
Ah-ah! So I guess the other villains won't stay in prison very long! You spoiled us! >:D
SaGe 26th Jun 2017, 2:26 PM edit delete reply
We got lucky for him to spill the beans on that 1 haha!
RMK 27th Jun 2017, 6:11 PM edit delete reply
Haha well to be fair, the only reason Olibu and Pikkon are present is for the prison transfer. So technically, sure, they're getting out. What happens after that is up to the imagination!
Natsu Fury 7th Jul 2017, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
Absolutely cannot wait for the next update. Seeing Yamcha face his demons one after the other is truly inspiring and not to mention heartwarming. Being able to create a masterpiece like this while having a full-time job and going to college is simply amazing. I hope you know just how talented you really are sir.
Soukidan 11th Jul 2017, 9:18 AM edit delete reply
Cada cuánto suben los capítulos? La descubrí hace muy poco y ahora quedé re ansioso de leer la continuacion. Otra consulta no está en español no?
Guest 20th Jul 2017, 12:17 AM edit delete reply
Re-read it the whole series so far. And now to wait...
SaGe 21st Jul 2017, 4:39 PM edit delete reply
Just finished me re-read through. Whew. What a ride. Any ETA on the next chapter? :)
LW 26th Jul 2017, 5:30 AM edit delete reply
I just discovered this comic. This is pure goodness!! Goku/Yamcha fight was epic! And Gero/Yamcha fight can only be good.

I love how you explain that Yamcha is indeed the first rival/friend of Goku ( among fighters at least ). Peoples tend to forget that.

(I read the earlier comment about the possible Vegeta/Yamcha fight... I just hope it wont be a "you stole my girl!!" fight. It's a bad characterisation some fan give Yamcha... sice they had broke up before Vegeta and Bulma got together... Yamcha can have his demons, but he is not a jealous ex-boyfriend.

I don't think you will mess up though. And you do whatever you want. )

I am eager to know the rest ! ( and sorry if my English is a bit ... broken. And sorry for that words waterfall ! )
Mr. D. Badass 28th Jul 2017, 6:54 AM edit delete reply
This is f*cking great, seeing Yamcha actually overpowering Gero and not getting... Well Yamcha'd . It's also nice seeing the old school Goku, not acting like he's lost half of his brain cells after all the stupid shit I've seen him do in super
Jay 29th Jul 2017, 1:32 AM edit delete reply
i keep checking back to see what is next but to be honest after this long and nothing new i am done i hope you do get to finish this some day for those who will find this story some time later but i am off to find new story's that are being made at least a little faster i understand things come up but maybe 1 page a month being new is not a lot to hope for
SaGe 29th Jul 2017, 6:06 PM edit delete reply
Patience is a virtue my friend. We're all waiting for the next chapter. While this IS a passion project for its creator... he does have a real life that WILL/SHOULD always come first. This is not DBM, where there are a multitude of people who can help create pages and/or color them.. allowing for a couple pages a week.

THIS is RMK's project alone :) (at least from my understanding)
RMK 29th Jul 2017, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
Yep, I am a one-man writing and drawing studio in my free time from work, college and family. Also, perspective: I've been working on this since 2003, with a 7-year hiatus from 2007-2014. This is a long time coming.
Romspartan117 3rd Aug 2017, 8:18 AM edit delete reply
Great job, really this is my favourite fan manga ! I discover it in french two years ago but it was only one chapter so i m the one who translate it to french ;) i stopped one year ago because of my studies but now i m free and planning to do the rest :) RMK do you have all the pages without the text ? usually i just erase it but if you have the raw page it will be easier ^^
RMK 3rd Aug 2017, 8:03 PM edit delete reply
I don't actually have any of the files without text. I would have to create them using the original Clip Studio files and deleting all the text blocks, so we would both have the same problem but from different sides of the problem. I am grateful that you want to translate however. If you are still interested, feel free to go ahead.
Someone from Earth 9th Aug 2017, 11:15 AM edit delete reply
Hello RMK , are you planning releasing the next chapter by the end of summer ? Really looking forward to it. Also if you have free time try draw more pictures in colour, with litle extra easter eggs in them...Thank you!!!
Naruto the 7th 3rd Aug 2017, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
Natsu Fury 6th Aug 2017, 7:44 PM edit delete reply
When do you think the next chapter will be updated?
RMK 9th Aug 2017, 9:03 PM edit delete reply
I was trying to have it done by this past weekend but as usual, things interfered. Shooting for the 15th.
tom 9th Aug 2017, 5:32 PM edit delete reply
with that said it has a good start but with nothing new in so long i have to think you just got bored and quit sadly it was going pretty good
RMK 9th Aug 2017, 9:02 PM edit delete reply
I've been working on this comic since 2003. If you think waiting since May is a long time, I've got bad news for you.
SaGe 12th Aug 2017, 3:42 PM edit delete reply
LOL. ^ Made my day.
Plague 13th Aug 2017, 10:36 AM edit delete reply
I fricking love the art of Yamcha in the last panel, he looks like a beast =)
Rod of stone 28th Aug 2018, 8:23 AM edit delete reply
I would be MORE than FUCKING HAPPY to sacrifice:

1. ToP

2. UI


4. The upcoming Broly movie

Just to see this fight, just this fight of Yamcha vs Gero animated!

Who is with me?!
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